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I don't think I had heard of this idea before, or if I did, I never really gave it much merit until today, when a man emailed me with the idea, and the verses from Timothy.  That all men will be saved, because all men will eventually believe in Jesus.

1Ti 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
1Ti 2:2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

John 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

1Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Joh 11:47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
Joh 11:48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.

1Samuel 17:46 This day will the LORD deliver thee into mine hand; and I will smite thee, and take thine head from thee; and I will give the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of the air, and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel.

Isaiah 25:8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

[John 17:12] While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

[2Thess 2:3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

[2Thess 2:4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Thus, it looks like there might be good scriptural evidence and support for the idea that only one man will be lost and doomed forever, the son of perdition, the AntiChrist.



I used to think that some people could be damned, now I'm not so sure.  Below, is what I wrote several months ago, and when I did not collect the scriptures above.

I've thought about this question all day long. I think if you take it, you are doomed, with no salvation. Regardless if you end up
giving food to others, etc.

The Revelation passages say,

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in
his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

"if any man worship" and "whosoever receiveth." What do those phrases mean, if not what they say? Does it mean that you can still be saved if you are a woman? Hogwash! Is worship limited to bowing down and would worship not include the actual receiving of
a chip? Hogwash!

Finally, we have

[Revelation 20:4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that
were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image,
neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

"had not worshipped...neither his image, neither had received..."

There is nothing about the justification of people who had "received but then later removed their mark" This is a case of either taking it or not. In fact, if someone HAD received it and removed it, and was saved, then God would be made out to be a liar, because the scripture says "neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands"!

God cannot lie!

[Titus 1:2.10] In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

Honestly, the taking of a chip would be a total, personal, acceptance of the money system in use. What kind of system do we
have? How many of God's laws does our current system break? It is based on theft, fraud, lies, murder, putting men above men,
ignoring God, etc. The current fractional reserve banking system breaks over 1/2 of the ten commandments.

It breaks the first, worship only God, and have no God's above God.
It breaks the third, making any images or the worship of them.
It breaks the fifth, honor your parents, as it is an alteration of your body.
It breaks the sixth, thou shalt not kill, as people are routinely killed in the support of this world money system.
It breaks the eighth, thou shalt not steal, as that's what inflation and personal taxation do.
It breaks the ninth, thou shalt not bear false witness, as people who use cash and do not accept the mark will be accused of
wanting cash for illegal purchases and uses.
It breaks the tenth, thou shalt not covet any property, as the taking of the mark will be promoted as a way to avoid having your
neighbors covet your cash--you won't have any to steal.

If you take the chip, it is a total support of an ungodly system, and I'd think you'd be doomed, regardless of whether you knew it
was the "beast mark" or not. It is a symbol of all that is against God, and the taking of it would signify a total personal acceptance
of such a system.
 
Why would anyone (with Biblical knowledge) take the mark when God so specifically says not to? A poor question, obviously, ...
it would be because they would want to save their skin.

Whosoever loves his life will lose it, and he who hates his life will save it.

Lot was justified because he hated the world he lived in.

Remember what God's instructions were to the Isrealites when they went into the promised land after 40 years? They were to slay
absolutely every person, every man, woman and child, with no exceptions, and they even killed every single animal in the first city
they conquored.

Then the Isrealites got soft, and stopped genociding the peoples they were conquoring, adopted the wifes for themselves, etc., and
they were punished severely.

In my opinion, I don't see how I could be friends or even aquaintances of people who had taken the mark, and I believe there
would be no point in ministering to anyone who had already taken it.

Is ignorance a valid excuse? I do remember reading in the Bible how there is a "chance" of salvation for people who have never
heard of Christ, that they can be justified by their consciences and their good actions, for example having such a strong conscience that they would be following the ten commandments naturally... But in the case of the implant mark, there will be no excuses left. That's why the language of the Bible is what it is, in my opinion...

[Mat 24:14.13] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the
end come.

There might not be any ignorance. Angels will warn people!

[Rev 14:6] Then I saw another angel flying in midheaven, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every
nation and tribe and tongue and people;
...
[Revelation 14:9] And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his
image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

[Revelation 14:10] The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into
the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence
of the Lamb:

But, there will be deception!

[Rev 19:20.29] And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had worked the signs by which he
deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the
lake of fire that burns with sulphur.

Even God will support the deception!

[2Thess 2:10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth,
that they might be saved.

[2Thess 2:11.16] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Do you believe that God would not do that to anyone?  Think again!

[Exod 7:2] Thou shalt speak all that I command thee: and Aaron thy brother shall speak unto Pharaoh, that he send the children of
Israel out of his land.

[Exod 7:3] And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt.

[Exod 7:4] But Pharaoh shall not hearken unto you, that I may lay my hand upon Egypt, and bring forth mine armies, and my
people the children of Israel, out of the land of Egypt by great judgments.

And the AntiChrist will have power to decieve people!

[Mat 24:24.28] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it
were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

[Mark 13:22.23] For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible,
even the elect.

Are you letting yourself be deceived, that there will be a way out if you take the mark? The Bible says there will be no way out!
Don't be deceived!

Take the mark in ignorance, in deception, it doesn't matter. You will lose all hope of eternal life, and there will be no salvation for your soul.

Mark the Bible's words, this "intolerant view" of Christians will be used against them when the battle heats up, and will be used to drive the whole world against all Christians in WAR!

[Dan 7:21.11] I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

[Rev 13:7.12] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all
kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Right now, people hate Christians because we are "intolerant" of homosexuals, of Clinton's adultry, of sins galore, etc., and it will only heat up and get worse.

People today are deceived by evolution, believing that salvation in any "Jesus Christ" is ignorant religious superstition. Are they
saved? No, they are in ignorance and damned. Just like anyone will be who takes the mark.